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by ZeroZero
Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:29 pm
Forum: 1.0. Hypothesis One: Consciousness Based On Language
Topic: Can consciousness breakdown in a society?
Replies: 3
Views: 16655

Re: Can consciousness breakdown in a society?

Interesting. 1] I think we work with slightly different versions of the word consciousnes - which is OK. As you are aware, I am sure, there are many many ways to see consciousness, Jayne's definition is comparitively narrow. For me, on first reading, it seems to refer to a capacity to introspect - t...
by ZeroZero
Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:09 pm
Forum: 4.0. Hypothesis Four: Jaynes's Neurological Model for the Bicameral Mind
Topic: Is the Neurological Model in Origin Still Valid?
Replies: 2
Views: 23213

Re: Is the Neurological Model in Origin Still Valid?

I am still researching this. The work of Jack Gallant is interesting too, a significant breakthough in semantics IMO https://www.youtube.com/whttp://gallantlab.org/huth2016/ and in more depth here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0Qiq22PRWQ Interactive brain model here http://gallantlab.org/huth2016/
by ZeroZero
Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:43 pm
Forum: 1.0. Hypothesis One: Consciousness Based On Language
Topic: Gurdjieff's Work in Relation to Jaynes'
Replies: 3
Views: 20731

Re: Gurdjieff's Work in Relation to Jaynes'

Speaking only of the orginal poster's question about the analogies between Gurdjieff's ontology and Jaynes. I recommend people compare Gurdjieff's discussion of the "centres" specifically the moving, emotional and intellectual centres. A good description can be found in Ouspenskys In Searc...
by ZeroZero
Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:19 pm
Forum: 4.0. Hypothesis Four: Jaynes's Neurological Model for the Bicameral Mind
Topic: Is the Neurological Model in Origin Still Valid?
Replies: 2
Views: 23213

Is the Neurological Model in Origin Still Valid?

I have been doing some background research into related neurology. I think others might be interested in this article about Brocas and Wernickes Areas. I am still researching and draw no conclusions https://digest.bps.org.uk/2016/11/01/broca-and-wernicke-are-dead-its-time-to-rewrite-the-neurobiology...
by ZeroZero
Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:35 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Welcome / Introductions
Replies: 35
Views: 92600

Re: Welcome / Introductions

Thought i would say hello. I would be interested in the thoughts of others about Jaynes ideas. I have just completed my first reading of the Origin and am now starting God and Voices. I am a retired psychiatric nurse. I have met with a few thousand people with various forms of psychosis. I worked in...
by ZeroZero
Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:30 pm
Forum: 1.0. Hypothesis One: Consciousness Based On Language
Topic: Can consciousness breakdown in a society?
Replies: 3
Views: 16655

Re: Can consciousness breakdown in a society?

I am just finishing the Origin, but these are questions that I have asked throughout my life. Here are my answers. 1] Who says we are conscious now? Much of the time we act in ways that are detrimental to ourselves and to the planet - rampant consumerism in the West is an example. We are still only ...
by ZeroZero
Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:33 am
Forum: Julian Jaynes
Topic: Jaynes - Which Languages Did He Speak/Understand?
Replies: 1
Views: 22154

Jaynes - Which Languages Did He Speak/Understand?

I am just finishing reading the Origin. I am wondering which of the many sources that Jaynes quotes were studied by him, which in the orginal text? was he capable of translating cuniform? Aramaic? Heiroglyphs, Ancient Greek etc? or did he approach these texts through translations? Were his sources p...

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