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by JSJohnson
Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:22 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
Replies: 16
Views: 142460

Re: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights

Today: Today our best science is asserting a fact that will ever stand in the history of our species as the moment of the beginning of our final transformation out of the jungle of our early evolution and into species maturity. What we are speaking of is the new understanding by our Science of the c...
by JSJohnson
Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:26 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
Replies: 16
Views: 142460

Re: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights

Highly recommended for those truly concerned about the future of civilization, the deepest current ongoing analysis and constructive commentary that I know of is available via subscription to: "The Institute of Science in Society" a quarterly publication accessible at http//www.i-sis.org.u...
by JSJohnson
Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:42 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
Replies: 16
Views: 142460

Re: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights

Or to put it anther way. . . The sheer enormity of the volume and similarity of reported NDEs from many different sources implying that consciousness survives death of the body will presumably eventually survive any argument.(1) In turn, given the rapidly spreading individual communications technolo...
by JSJohnson
Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:40 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: References to Julian Jaynes by other Authors
Replies: 7
Views: 25974

Re: References to Julian Jaynes by other Authors

Just finished reading "reflections on the Dawn of Consciousness; Julian Jaynes Bicameral Mind Theory Revisited" by Marcel Kuijsten, followed by "Conciousness Beyond Life -- The Science of the Near-Death Experience" by Pim van Lommel, MD. Science seems to be considering the view t...
by JSJohnson
Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:31 pm
Forum: 3.0. Hypothesis Three: Dating the Development of Consciousness
Topic: Bible Evidence to Support Jaynes' Theory
Replies: 11
Views: 35413

Re: Bible Evidence to Support Jaynes' Theory

Hi Shrimperdude, You write: “Due to breakthrough research which has so completely revised our understanding of the many neurological structures involved in what we understand as thought or thinking, we are at no disadvantage when evaluating the radical changes which must have occurred when conscio...
by JSJohnson
Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:24 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
Replies: 16
Views: 142460

Re: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights

Ponce, thanks for the input. ". . . the growing avalanche of ready information will eventually subsume consciousness. Fears of AI taking over are better founded than ever, they're just misunderstood. We are Tweeting our "ourselves" into oblivion. But, maybe this is the future of consc...
by JSJohnson
Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:38 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
Replies: 16
Views: 142460

Re: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights

Hi Rollo. I guess what has happened to my perceptions over the years is that "nothing" or "no thing" came to convey the absence of objective expression which presumably began with the big bang. But the "something out of nothing" implied by the big bang suggested spectac...
by JSJohnson
Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:50 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
Replies: 16
Views: 142460

Re: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights

Just finished reading Decoding Reality, the Universe as Quantum Information (Oxford, 2010) by Vlatko Vedral who ends with a quote from the Tao Te Ching: "The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao. The name that can be named is not the eternal name. The nameless is the beginning of heaven ...
by JSJohnson
Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:11 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
Replies: 16
Views: 142460

Re: JAYNES -- 2011

Right on all counts. Our "agency" status seems to imply some accessible orderly path back to the whole through the deepest introspection. In turn, that implies meaningful metaphors relating all relevant experience and perceptions; what might manifest as a kind of resonance; perhaps flashes...
by JSJohnson
Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:28 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
Replies: 16
Views: 142460

Re: JAYNES -- 2011

Yes, Sam seems to have the point on science essential to shaping human values, vs. the extremes of fanatical religious views, but it was the early emergent monotheistic religions that agreed upon the Golden Rule and its variants that gave a vehicle, if primitive, for the search and recognition of mo...
by JSJohnson
Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:04 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
Replies: 16
Views: 142460

Re: JAYNES -- 2011

Hi Rollo, right on. A "science of aesthetics" almost seems a contradiction, and searching the web for it is not very rewarding. Theoretically, it includes all of the works as you state. In search of insight I recently obtained a copy of Jeffrey Wattles The Golden Rule (Oxford U. Press, 199...
by JSJohnson
Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:28 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
Replies: 16
Views: 142460

Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights

A variety of newly emerging insights suggest a path to still-deeper understanding, raising the significance of Jaynes' message. One such insight comes from recent findings relating to some of our 26 constants of nature. It seems that certain constants must be so extremely precise in order to support...
by JSJohnson
Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:53 pm
Forum: 2.0. Hypothesis Two: The Bicameral Mind
Topic: Temporary Bicamerality
Replies: 19
Views: 57754

Re: Temporary Bicamerality

Rollo, much obliged for your most stimulating analysis and focus. You ask whether I say that the organization we perceive has a cause or whether it is merely a figment of our perception. I’d be inclined to say that there are two perspectives on organization; one objective and one subjective. The o...
by JSJohnson
Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:28 pm
Forum: 2.0. Hypothesis Two: The Bicameral Mind
Topic: Temporary Bicamerality
Replies: 19
Views: 57754

Re: Temporary Bicamerality

Amen to that, Rollo. While the laws of science are a mechanistic interpretation of natural order, Kauffman's "Reinventing the Sacred" (as much as I could understand of it) explains that nature is self-organizing in creative ways that are not reducible to, or predictable by, the laws of sci...
by JSJohnson
Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:53 pm
Forum: 2.0. Hypothesis Two: The Bicameral Mind
Topic: Temporary Bicamerality
Replies: 19
Views: 57754

Re: Temporary Bicamerality

Agreed. I can imagine that most such systems represent answers to much smaller societies in response to earlier needs, systems that now burden the evolved society only because of public ignorance or the vested interests of the few. How would we begin to identify them all -- seemingly an infinity in ...

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