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- Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:22 am
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
- Replies: 16
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Re: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
Today: Today our best science is asserting a fact that will ever stand in the history of our species as the moment of the beginning of our final transformation out of the jungle of our early evolution and into species maturity. What we are speaking of is the new understanding by our Science of the c...
- Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:26 am
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
- Replies: 16
- Views: 153769
Re: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
Highly recommended for those truly concerned about the future of civilization, the deepest current ongoing analysis and constructive commentary that I know of is available via subscription to: "The Institute of Science in Society" a quarterly publication accessible at http//www.i-sis.org.u...
- Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:42 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
- Replies: 16
- Views: 153769
Re: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
Or to put it anther way. . . The sheer enormity of the volume and similarity of reported NDEs from many different sources implying that consciousness survives death of the body will presumably eventually survive any argument.(1) In turn, given the rapidly spreading individual communications technolo...
- Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:40 am
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: References to Julian Jaynes by other Authors
- Replies: 7
- Views: 28705
Re: References to Julian Jaynes by other Authors
Just finished reading "reflections on the Dawn of Consciousness; Julian Jaynes Bicameral Mind Theory Revisited" by Marcel Kuijsten, followed by "Conciousness Beyond Life -- The Science of the Near-Death Experience" by Pim van Lommel, MD. Science seems to be considering the view t...
- Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:31 pm
- Forum: 3.0. Hypothesis Three: Dating the Development of Consciousness
- Topic: Bible Evidence to Support Jaynes' Theory
- Replies: 11
- Views: 39649
Re: Bible Evidence to Support Jaynes' Theory
Hi Shrimperdude, You write: “Due to breakthrough research which has so completely revised our understanding of the many neurological structures involved in what we understand as thought or thinking, we are at no disadvantage when evaluating the radical changes which must have occurred when conscio...
- Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:24 am
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
- Replies: 16
- Views: 153769
Re: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
Ponce, thanks for the input. ". . . the growing avalanche of ready information will eventually subsume consciousness. Fears of AI taking over are better founded than ever, they're just misunderstood. We are Tweeting our "ourselves" into oblivion. But, maybe this is the future of consc...
- Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:38 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
- Replies: 16
- Views: 153769
Re: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
Hi Rollo. I guess what has happened to my perceptions over the years is that "nothing" or "no thing" came to convey the absence of objective expression which presumably began with the big bang. But the "something out of nothing" implied by the big bang suggested spectac...
- Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:50 am
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
- Replies: 16
- Views: 153769
Re: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
Just finished reading Decoding Reality, the Universe as Quantum Information (Oxford, 2010) by Vlatko Vedral who ends with a quote from the Tao Te Ching: "The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao. The name that can be named is not the eternal name. The nameless is the beginning of heaven ...
- Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:11 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
- Replies: 16
- Views: 153769
Re: JAYNES -- 2011
Right on all counts. Our "agency" status seems to imply some accessible orderly path back to the whole through the deepest introspection. In turn, that implies meaningful metaphors relating all relevant experience and perceptions; what might manifest as a kind of resonance; perhaps flashes...
- Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:28 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
- Replies: 16
- Views: 153769
Re: JAYNES -- 2011
Yes, Sam seems to have the point on science essential to shaping human values, vs. the extremes of fanatical religious views, but it was the early emergent monotheistic religions that agreed upon the Golden Rule and its variants that gave a vehicle, if primitive, for the search and recognition of mo...
- Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:04 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
- Replies: 16
- Views: 153769
Re: JAYNES -- 2011
Hi Rollo, right on. A "science of aesthetics" almost seems a contradiction, and searching the web for it is not very rewarding. Theoretically, it includes all of the works as you state. In search of insight I recently obtained a copy of Jeffrey Wattles The Golden Rule (Oxford U. Press, 199...
- Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:28 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
- Replies: 16
- Views: 153769
Jaynes - Newly Emerging Insights
A variety of newly emerging insights suggest a path to still-deeper understanding, raising the significance of Jaynes' message. One such insight comes from recent findings relating to some of our 26 constants of nature. It seems that certain constants must be so extremely precise in order to support...
- Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:53 pm
- Forum: 2.0. Hypothesis Two: The Bicameral Mind
- Topic: Temporary Bicamerality
- Replies: 19
- Views: 64329
Re: Temporary Bicamerality
Rollo, much obliged for your most stimulating analysis and focus. You ask whether I say that the organization we perceive has a cause or whether it is merely a figment of our perception. I’d be inclined to say that there are two perspectives on organization; one objective and one subjective. The o...
- Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:28 pm
- Forum: 2.0. Hypothesis Two: The Bicameral Mind
- Topic: Temporary Bicamerality
- Replies: 19
- Views: 64329
Re: Temporary Bicamerality
Amen to that, Rollo. While the laws of science are a mechanistic interpretation of natural order, Kauffman's "Reinventing the Sacred" (as much as I could understand of it) explains that nature is self-organizing in creative ways that are not reducible to, or predictable by, the laws of sci...
- Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:53 pm
- Forum: 2.0. Hypothesis Two: The Bicameral Mind
- Topic: Temporary Bicamerality
- Replies: 19
- Views: 64329
Re: Temporary Bicamerality
Agreed. I can imagine that most such systems represent answers to much smaller societies in response to earlier needs, systems that now burden the evolved society only because of public ignorance or the vested interests of the few. How would we begin to identify them all -- seemingly an infinity in ...