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by Soupdragon
Sat Apr 30, 2005 2:56 pm
Forum: Religion and the Bicameral Mind
Topic: Jaynes's View of Religion
Replies: 18
Views: 45343

I would suggest that for Jaynes, C1 resides in the brain, and ceases at death. No where in his writing or lectures have I found anything that would contradict this statement. I would say that this was far too simplistic, and Ardery's quote from Jaynes seems to support my contention. Is it fair to s...
by Soupdragon
Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:53 pm
Forum: Religion and the Bicameral Mind
Topic: Jaynes's View of Religion
Replies: 18
Views: 45343

Well, I'm a little bit concerned about posts being deleted as this might easily be construed as revisionist. I really can't see why you should worry about contributing to threads, especially when you have been fair and reasonable. Some BB moderators are quick to ban those of differing opinions ... u...
by Soupdragon
Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:13 pm
Forum: Religion and the Bicameral Mind
Topic: Jaynes's View of Religion
Replies: 18
Views: 45343

This is how I understand it, and I also think it is important that we resist the temptation to interpret his work according to our own belief systems. Isn't the whole point of reading and thinking to help us challenge and redefine our own thoughts and beliefs? I agree to a large extent, but my poin...
by Soupdragon
Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:06 pm
Forum: Religion and the Bicameral Mind
Topic: Somer's Psychological Analysis of Biblical Prophets
Replies: 3
Views: 14167

Somer's Psychological Analysis of Biblical Prophets

Interesting article! I think Somer's perspective is somewhat in conflict with Jaynes. If the voice of God as heard by Moses was a result of the bicameral mind, it doesn't seem fitting to say he had a mental illness. If you go with the mental illness theory, then would you say that all people living...
by Soupdragon
Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:47 am
Forum: Religion and the Bicameral Mind
Topic: The Prophet Mohammed, Islam, and the Bicameral Mind
Replies: 2
Views: 13485

Very interesting article. I particularly like chapter 3, the Hindu-Buddhist interpretation. The specifically Hindu contribution to our understanding of the Quranic revelation is to bring in the yogic experience. As an example of how yogic practice can go wrong, warning against the dangers of experim...
by Soupdragon
Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:48 pm
Forum: Religion and the Bicameral Mind
Topic: Jaynes's View of Religion
Replies: 18
Views: 45343

I think it is important to understand that Jaynes work does not necessarily support or undermine spiritual belief. It can be interpreted either way. The OFCITBOTBM contends that man has changed from a previous state of consciousness to subjective consciousness, where we are now. This has possibly ha...
by Soupdragon
Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:42 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Welcome / Introductions
Replies: 29
Views: 57577

Hi Lyam

I hope you enjoy the book. I've just started reading it for a second time. It gets better.

I too would like to see a busier bulletin board, but it's a positive start...
by Soupdragon
Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:01 pm
Forum: The Bicameral Mind: Breakdown, Neurological Model, Evolution, etc.
Topic: Bicameral Breakdown
Replies: 9
Views: 27055

Sure. Velikovsky was the man who really started the ball rolling, but he was lacking any method/agent to deliver the sucker punches to planet Earth. The emerging Plasma Universe paradigm (aka Electric Universe), however, offers insights that were lacking back then. Electrostatics may indeed hold the...
by Soupdragon
Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:17 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Meta-Theory
Replies: 1
Views: 8318

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that Philosophy lacks any material or historical basis? I think that Jaynes approach is more philosophical than psychological (behavioural). The study of the 'Philosophy of Mind' necessarily takes a more cross-disciplinary approach. We are still a long way off un...
by Soupdragon
Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:36 pm
Forum: Auditory Hallucinations in Normal Adults
Topic: Recreational Pharmaceuticals
Replies: 1
Views: 13877

Recreational Pharmaceuticals

Hallucinations are not uncommon when under the influence of drugs of course. Has there been any research on activity levels of certain areas of the brain when people take, say, LSD?
by Soupdragon
Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:31 pm
Forum: The Mentality of Pre-Literate and Pre-Modern Peoples
Topic: "Primitive Mentality" by Lucien Lévy-Bruhl & Jaynes' Theory
Replies: 11
Views: 31566

A lot of English soccer fans certainly seem to demonstrate a tribal mentality, but have any of the psychosociologists that like to interview them ever asked about visions or voices? I doubt it. :wink:
by Soupdragon
Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:22 pm
Forum: The Bicameral Mind: Breakdown, Neurological Model, Evolution, etc.
Topic: Jaynes's Neurological Model Vindicated
Replies: 12
Views: 31110

RE: Jaynes's Neurological Model Vindicated

Well, I think this adds weight to his ideas, but I doubt that the neuroscientists would necessarily see it the same way? The ideas are, after all, as revolutionary now as they were then. I wonder, therefore, how they might be explained away in order to fit the prevailing paradigm. I think the ration...
by Soupdragon
Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:56 am
Forum: The Bicameral Mind: Breakdown, Neurological Model, Evolution, etc.
Topic: Bicameral Breakdown
Replies: 9
Views: 27055

Further: I have just copied the below from an SIS CD. I'm sure they won't mind. From: SIS Internet Digest 1998:1 (June 1998) Home | Issue Contents Jaynes anyone? From: Amy Date: Clark asks: What about the "Mankind in Amnesia" idea that ancient disasters may still be motivating factors in the modern...
by Soupdragon
Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:47 am
Forum: The Bicameral Mind: Breakdown, Neurological Model, Evolution, etc.
Topic: Bicameral Breakdown
Replies: 9
Views: 27055

Thank you for an interesting response. From what you say I can see that there is little reason why we should not be able to adapt quickly. I have a hunch, however, that we were adapting to global changes, perhaps of a catastrophic nature during the periods of bicameral breakdown. Many years ago I fo...
by Soupdragon
Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:22 pm
Forum: Dreams & Consciousness
Topic: Mirrors
Replies: 7
Views: 26712

Mirrors

Unfortunately I can only remember a few lucid dreams.

Being conscious of unconscious dreams reminds me of the hall of mirrors analogy in another thread on here.