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by erikweijers
Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:07 am
Forum: Mind from 9000 B.C. to 1000 A.D.: Analysis of Classic Literature, Linguistics, and Ancient Civilizations
Topic: "The Greeks and the Irrational" by E.R. Dodds
Replies: 4
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"The Greeks and the Irrational" by E.R. Dodds

Allow me to reply with a first quote of Dodds, which clearly shows that Jaynes was influenced by him. In this case the argument that the gods were not merely a poetic device of the author(s) of the Odyssey: 'But the most characteristic feature of the Odyssey is the way in which its personages ascrib...
by erikweijers
Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:07 pm
Forum: Book Discussion: Origin of Consciousness; Gods, Voices, and the Bicameral Mind; The Julian Jaynes Collection; Reflections on the Dawn of Consciousness
Topic: Reflections Ch. 7 - The Self as Interiorized Social Relat..
Replies: 4
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I liked this chapter. It starts exploring at a point at which Jaynes simply had to carry on. Besides, it restates some points of Jaynes. I think to restate is always good for mental flexibility and understanding. For example, I liked the comparison of the self as a "personal toolkit of command and c...
by erikweijers
Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:41 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How to Explain Jaynes to Your Mother-in-Law
Replies: 9
Views: 21330

It is a sign of the status that Jaynes's work has acquired that Dawkins mentions him. Apparently he feels he cannot ignore it, despite disagreeing pretty much. As an admirer of Dawkins, I found The God Delusion very disappointing. I think Dawkins is not unfair in his summary of Jaynes, but he reject...
by erikweijers
Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:31 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How to Explain Jaynes to Your Mother-in-Law
Replies: 9
Views: 21330

Hi Moderator, Nice to hear that you enjoyed my summary. I find the four points you mention as an approach to explain the theory, very useful. Point 1. consciousness based on language - has to be the first one indeed. As Jaynes does in his book, you just have to start with a definition of consciousne...
by erikweijers
Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:43 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How to Explain Jaynes to Your Mother-in-Law
Replies: 9
Views: 21330

Thanks Helmut, for commenting on my piece. You quote a sentence from the brief summary/introduction to my three-piece article. A certain degree of crudeness here is inevitable. What I wanted to convey to the naive readers in this introduction, is that consciousness is an acquired feature of the huma...
by erikweijers
Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:58 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How to Explain Jaynes to Your Mother-in-Law
Replies: 9
Views: 21330

How to Explain Jaynes to Your Mother-in-Law

I think most of you familiar with The Origin know the feeling: a friend sees the book and asks: "What is it about?" Ah, well... where shall I start? After struggling for years with this feeling, I decided to write an article on the book. To make the topic clear to myself as well as to others. While ...