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by HurdyGurdyMan
Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:27 pm
Forum: The Nature of Consciousness: Its Features and Modes
Topic: "The User Illusion" by Tor Nørretranders
Replies: 5
Views: 19847

Re: "The User Illusion" by Tor Nørretranders

A very interesting discussion. I must first confess that I haven't read the book in question, but plan to purchase a copy. Tor, BTW, reminds me very much of a "Tor" I have, in the past, encountered in another discussion forum, and who was very interested in Jaynes' theory. Having not read the book, ...
by HurdyGurdyMan
Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:41 pm
Forum: The Mentality of Pre-Literate and Pre-Modern Peoples
Topic: Excavation at Gobeckli Tepe
Replies: 0
Views: 15200

Excavation at Gobeckli Tepe

Here is a link to an article concerning excavations at Gobeckli Tepe. I found interesting the assertion by Klaus Schmidt that farming and animal domestication did not predate the building of "spiritual" structures, but that it was the other way around. This site apparently predates Stonehenge by 6,0...
by HurdyGurdyMan
Tue May 27, 2008 11:17 pm
Forum: The Bicameral Mind in Fiction, Film, and Popular Culture
Topic: The Bicameral Mind in His Dark Materials /The Golden Compass
Replies: 6
Views: 19233

Re: The Bicameral Mind in His Dark Materials /The Golden Compass

A most interesting, and informative series of posts. I saw the movie, and I was also reminded of the animal mind as substrate for the conscious mind of the characters. It is an animal upon which consciousness is posited. As there cannot be a disembodied spirit, we are always attached to our animal s...
by HurdyGurdyMan
Tue May 27, 2008 10:32 pm
Forum: The Nature of Consciousness: Its Features and Modes
Topic: Consciousness vs. Perception
Replies: 4
Views: 15583

Re: Consciousness vs. Perception

"Consciousness", it seems, has different definitions, depending upon which author one is reading. In most popular books, it doesn't seem to be very well defined, if defined at all, leaving one to equate it with "perception." I think that one of the major contributions of Jaynes was his taking "consc...
by HurdyGurdyMan
Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:31 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Elephant Painting
Replies: 2
Views: 8337

Re: Elephant Painting

Yes, agreed. No self portrait is suspected by this poster. The animals are trained. It's the process of pattern recognition that I find interesting. While not indicative of a bicameral mind, the pattern process in the animal awareness seems, to me, to be the foundation upon which the bicameral mind,...
by HurdyGurdyMan
Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:14 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Elephant Painting
Replies: 2
Views: 8337

Elephant Painting

No comments on the training process which might be invloved here, but this is pretty neat. I doubt the self portrait theory, but my curiosity is piqued to investigate a possible connection here to early, pre-conscious cave drawings of bison. Could the animal process of pattern recognition involved h...