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- Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:27 pm
- Forum: 1.0. Hypothesis One: Consciousness Based On Language
- Topic: "The User Illusion" by Tor Nørretranders
- Replies: 5
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Re: "The User Illusion" by Tor Nørretranders
A very interesting discussion. I must first confess that I haven't read the book in question, but plan to purchase a copy. Tor, BTW, reminds me very much of a "Tor" I have, in the past, encountered in another discussion forum, and who was very interested in Jaynes' theory. Having not read ...
- Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:41 pm
- Forum: 2.6. Hypothesis Two: The Bicameral Mind | Subtopic: The Mentality of Pre-Literate & Pre-Modern Peoples
- Topic: Excavation at Gobeckli Tepe
- Replies: 0
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Excavation at Gobeckli Tepe
Here is a link to an article concerning excavations at Gobeckli Tepe. I found interesting the assertion by Klaus Schmidt that farming and animal domestication did not predate the building of "spiritual" structures, but that it was the other way around. This site apparently predates Stonehe...
- Tue May 27, 2008 11:17 pm
- Forum: The Bicameral Mind in Fiction, Film & Popular Culture
- Topic: The Bicameral Mind in His Dark Materials /The Golden Compass
- Replies: 7
- Views: 37921
Re: The Bicameral Mind in His Dark Materials /The Golden Compass
A most interesting, and informative series of posts. I saw the movie, and I was also reminded of the animal mind as substrate for the conscious mind of the characters. It is an animal upon which consciousness is posited. As there cannot be a disembodied spirit, we are always attached to our animal s...
- Tue May 27, 2008 10:32 pm
- Forum: 1.0. Hypothesis One: Consciousness Based On Language
- Topic: Consciousness vs. Perception
- Replies: 4
- Views: 24055
Re: Consciousness vs. Perception
"Consciousness", it seems, has different definitions, depending upon which author one is reading. In most popular books, it doesn't seem to be very well defined, if defined at all, leaving one to equate it with "perception." I think that one of the major contributions of Jaynes w...
- Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:31 am
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Elephant Painting
- Replies: 2
- Views: 15159
Re: Elephant Painting
Yes, agreed. No self portrait is suspected by this poster. The animals are trained. It's the process of pattern recognition that I find interesting. While not indicative of a bicameral mind, the pattern process in the animal awareness seems, to me, to be the foundation upon which the bicameral mind,...
- Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:14 pm
- Forum: General Discussion
- Topic: Elephant Painting
- Replies: 2
- Views: 15159
Elephant Painting
No comments on the training process which might be invloved here, but this is pretty neat. I doubt the self portrait theory, but my curiosity is piqued to investigate a possible connection here to early, pre-conscious cave drawings of bison. Could the animal process of pattern recognition involved h...