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by misterrosen
Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:54 pm
Forum: 1.0. Hypothesis One: Consciousness Based On Language
Topic: JJ and the Homunculus Fallacy
Replies: 14
Views: 36713

Re: JJ and the Homunculus Fallacy

Greetings, I love this content, and believe in and use it daily. But haven't been back here for almost 10 years. I've read through the comments that came after mine, and have a couple insights. First, early one, you mention a patient with severed corpus callosum severed, and you refer to the nature ...
by misterrosen
Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:21 pm
Forum: The Bicameral Mind in Fiction, Film & Popular Culture
Topic: Author Philip K. Dick's letter to edtr. Mark Hurst re Jaynes
Replies: 5
Views: 25184

Re: Author Philip K. Dick's letter to edtr. Mark Hurst re Ja

Replicate, My impression is that collective unconscious is not applicable in this case. Rather, the left brain, which reasons and problem solves at a higher level, has to 'transmit' this information to the right side in order for bicameral man to function better. The 'voice' then is heard as an expr...
by misterrosen
Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:10 pm
Forum: The Bicameral Mind in Fiction, Film & Popular Culture
Topic: Battlestar Galactica and Julian Jaynes
Replies: 8
Views: 27564

Re: Battlestar Galactica and Julian Jaynes

Balter, though, is later revealed to be Cylon, which makes 'his' bicameralism identical to that of 'Six'. This leaves us the impression that Cylons may be bicameral while humans have 'unified' consciousness. Yeah, Cylons may be networked, interesting facet of the show that was never sufficiently exp...
by misterrosen
Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:17 pm
Forum: The Bicameral Mind in Fiction, Film & Popular Culture
Topic: Battlestar Galactica and Julian Jaynes
Replies: 8
Views: 27564

Re: Battlestar Galactica and Julian Jaynes

I've been watching season 1 again with this concept in mind. Indeed, Baltar appears bicameral, experiencing a variety of stress-induced visual and auditory hallucinations, primarily centered on subconscious fears about his own well-being. Confused, then, of course, by the periodic appearance of his ...
by misterrosen
Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:15 am
Forum: The Bicameral Mind in Fiction, Film & Popular Culture
Topic: Black Swan - Taleb (not the ballet movie with Natalie, sorry
Replies: 0
Views: 23729

Black Swan - Taleb (not the ballet movie with Natalie, sorry

In Black Swan, Nassim Nicholas Taleb references Julian Jaynes 'indirectly. On page 59 (paperback, just above 'Saw Another Red Mini'), he is discussing the notion of 'corroborative evidence'. He quotes John Updike, and his review of Jaynes 'thesis', (not notably, not the title of the original book). ...
by misterrosen
Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:06 am
Forum: The Bicameral Mind in Fiction, Film & Popular Culture
Topic: Aeon Flux - Episode 7, Chronophasia
Replies: 0
Views: 23700

Aeon Flux - Episode 7, Chronophasia

Until about a year ago I had never met anyone other than my stepmother (who gave me my first copy of Origins in the 80's), that had ever even heard of Jaynes, his book, or his theories. I'd always been fascinated by the concepts, especially for their implications in religion. My interest continues t...
by misterrosen
Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:51 am
Forum: The Bicameral Mind in Fiction, Film & Popular Culture
Topic: Battlestar Galactica and Julian Jaynes
Replies: 8
Views: 27564

Re: Battlestar Galactica and Julian Jaynes

Logic Pure sweetness. Even if we accept Baltar 'met' Number Six only a single time, ti would provide an aural base for all the subsequent schizophrenia (bicameralism) needed to explain his later fears and behaviors. Gorgeously put. Begs a question though. Could bicameralism be chemically induced? An...
by misterrosen
Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:47 am
Forum: The Bicameral Mind in Fiction, Film & Popular Culture
Topic: Author Philip K. Dick's letter to edtr. Mark Hurst re Jaynes
Replies: 5
Views: 25184

Re: Author Philip K. Dick's letter to edtr. Mark Hurst re Ja

I wish I'd known about this letter sooner. Fascinating. It contains errors. The main error is Dick's statement that 'originally man was bicameral'. Jaynes states explicitly that man was not bicameral originally, but became so 'later' when complex language was developed. Dick then explains that Jayne...
by misterrosen
Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:42 pm
Forum: 1.0. Hypothesis One: Consciousness Based On Language
Topic: JJ and the Homunculus Fallacy
Replies: 14
Views: 36713

Re: JJ and the Homunculus Fallacy

Hey guys, I'm a noob to this page/site, but not a noob to Jaynes. The discussion re Humonculous Falacy is interesting. I think I grasp the gist, though a few points seemed to stray from the theme. A few thoughts occurred to me though, and I'll share them in a less formal structure. First, In Thinkin...

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