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by Gororules
Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:37 pm
Forum: News Items Related to Jaynes's Theory
Topic: Found a Julian Jaynes citation
Replies: 0
Views: 5180

Found a Julian Jaynes citation

Just for the record for the webmaster, Steve Hagen mentioned Julian Jaynes' definition of consciousness in his book 1998 book How the World Can Be the Way It Is: An Inquiry for the New Millennium into Science, Philosophy, and Perception https://books.google.com/books?id=YmbYAAAAMAAJ&focus=searchwith...
by Gororules
Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:21 pm
Forum: News Items Related to Jaynes's Theory
Topic: Blog Claims JJ is "All Mixed Up"
Replies: 4
Views: 9341

Re: Blog Claims JJ is "All Mixed Up"

As an unrelated blogger myself, yes, when I take down a post it is because my opinion had changed due to new info.
by Gororules
Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:40 am
Forum: Religion and the Bicameral Mind
Topic: Mother Teresa Hearing the Voice of God
Replies: 0
Views: 10242

Mother Teresa Hearing the Voice of God

"I was sure it was God's voice. The message was clear. I must leave the convent to help the poor by living with them. This was a command, something to be done. Something definite. I knew where I had to be. But I did not know to get there." - Mother Teresa Mother Teresa is a very interesting case of ...
by Gororules
Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:36 am
Forum: News Items Related to Jaynes's Theory
Topic: Latest News on Westworld and the Bicameral Mind
Replies: 3
Views: 7141

Re: Latest News on Westworld and the Bicameral Mind

I, too, was shocked that Westworld mentioned the bicameral mind. I had passed on the show because too many people were hyping it up. The crazy thing is how Google and Youtube work with the search engines is that the show will surpass much older bicameral discussion..lol
by Gororules
Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:32 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Real World Practical Implications of Jaynes' Theory
Replies: 9
Views: 15419

Re: Real world practical implications of Jaynes' theory

Jaynes does mention he did not want to eradicate religion. For many, if not all, religions that survived into the 21st century, they all require the concept of "faith" because we do not hear the voices anymore.
by Gororules
Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:28 am
Forum: The Nature of Consciousness: Its Features and Modes
Topic: A point of clarification - what does Jaynes mean?
Replies: 13
Views: 22616

Re: A point of clarification - what does Jaynes mean?

Although our internal non-hallucinated voices do not sound like distinct characters, therein lines a problem with modern consciousnesses- our internal voices could be deceiving us. Although Freud's theories are usually disparaged, id vs superego with ego being a filter is certainly how my mind works...
by Gororules
Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:32 pm
Forum: Religion and the Bicameral Mind
Topic: Modernity Founded Upon Dreams, Hallucinations, Visions, etc
Replies: 1
Views: 6311

Modernity Founded Upon Dreams, Hallucinations, Visions, etc

What are the implications of world religions, science, philosophy, etc being founded by people who heard/saw angels/demons/gods/entities/Logos via hallucinations, visions, or dreams? (I refer to the influence of religious prophets, Descartes, Socrates, and John Dee, just to name a few.) How does a b...
by Gororules
Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:54 am
Forum: Religion and the Bicameral Mind
Topic: Origin of the Gods
Replies: 11
Views: 22723

Re: Origin of the Gods

Old thread, but I am reading Food of the Gods after watching many videos of Terrence McKenna videos on Youtube last year. I too believe there is a connection between these two theories, at least in theme. It it possible that one is right, both are wrong, or some sort of synthesis, although I, too, a...
by Gororules
Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:26 am
Forum: News Items Related to Jaynes's Theory
Topic: Straightdope on Julian Jaynes
Replies: 1
Views: 9594

Straightdope on Julian Jaynes

The Straight Dope is an old forum dominated by rationalists and humanists. The topic of Julian Jaynes came up.

Feel free to participate if you wish. John Mace, as usual, is the stubborn establishment type.

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/sho ... p?t=764916
by Gororules
Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:09 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Jeffrey Stamps and Thomas Forster
Replies: 1
Views: 7519

Jeffrey Stamps and Thomas Forster

I came across two references to Julian Jaynes which I did not see listed or mentioned here (apologies if they have been): Holonomy: A Human Systems Theory (1980) http://books.google.com/books?id=9fs0o1gbpXIC&pg Stamps cites James in a positive light. Thomas Forster Tries to Understand Julian Jaynes ...
by Gororules
Tue Nov 18, 2014 1:58 pm
Forum: The Bicameral Mind in Fiction, Film, and Popular Culture
Topic: Harry Turtledove's "Between the Rivers"
Replies: 1
Views: 7379

Harry Turtledove's "Between the Rivers"

Harry Turtledove's "Between the Rivers" http://www.amazon.com/Between-Rivers-Harry-Turtledove/dp/0812545206 is a fictional look at mankind breaking away from gods due to writing and trading. Although the gods are real in this fantasy novel, the dynamics seem to be inspired by Julian Jaynes's bicamer...