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by Moderator
Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:17 pm
Forum: News Items Related to Jaynes's Theory
Topic: "Gods came AFTER the rise of civilizations"?
Replies: 2
Views: 2849

Re: "Gods came AFTER the rise of civilizations"?

Agreed... the many gods during the bicameral period slowly blended and merged into fewer and fewer more powerful gods as consciousness was learned and the voices were suppressed.
by Moderator
Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:15 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Visual Thinking
Replies: 2
Views: 1850

Re: Visual Thinking

Jaynes mentions somewhere that visual thinking, for example, imagining an apple and slowly rotating it, takes place in consciousness, but he believes this ability was first learned through language. In other words, it is through metaphorical language that the mental space for visual thinking to occu...
by Moderator
Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:09 pm
Forum: Schizophrenia
Topic: Scientists zap 'voices' from schizophrenia sufferers
Replies: 1
Views: 10426

Re: Scientists zap 'voices' from schizophrenia sufferers

Very interesting research. In the resulting article that was published, it looks like they focused on the left hemisphere, where the hallucinations are "heard."
by Moderator
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:50 pm
Forum: Auditory Hallucinations in Normal Adults
Topic: Psychic Phenomena as Bicameralism with Strong Intuition
Replies: 1
Views: 6450

Re: Psychic Phenomena as Bicameralism with Strong Intuition

I think that your basic intuitions on this are spot on. Obviously there's a wide range with psychics... everything from basic charlatans who've read a few books on reading people (you can buy them on Amazon) and just view it as a way to make a living, to those that are actually hearing voices and ha...
by Moderator
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:21 pm
Forum: The Nature of Consciousness: Its Features and Modes
Topic: Degree of Breakdown/Consciousness in Individuals
Replies: 6
Views: 21814

Re: Degree of Breakdown/Consciousness in Individuals

I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that far left/right political positions are necessarily a sign of lesser consciousness development. I think it would have more to do with what their specific beliefs are and how they arrive at their conclusions. One can look at the degree that someone's politic...
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Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:11 pm
Forum: The Nature of Consciousness: Its Features and Modes
Topic: The Unusual Language That Linguists Thought Couldn’t Exist
Replies: 2
Views: 16867

Re: The Unusual Language That Linguists Thought Couldn’t Exi

Similar to the language of the Pirahã of the Brazilian Amazon, this represents another blow to Chomsky and the genetic basis for universal grammar crowd.
by Moderator
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:07 pm
Forum: The Nature of Consciousness: Its Features and Modes
Topic: Doctors Discover A Woman With No Cerebellum
Replies: 1
Views: 10662

Re: Doctors Discover A Woman With No Cerebellum

It's fascinating that she could even be alive.

Similar to cases where patients are found to have been missing an entire hemisphere, it attests to the power of neuroplasticity, and the ability for the brain to use different areas for functions normally residing elsewhere.
by Moderator
Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:04 pm
Forum: The Nature of Consciousness: Its Features and Modes
Topic: Mysterious Soundscapes
Replies: 1
Views: 10522

Re: Mysterious Soundscapes

Interesting!
by Moderator
Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:15 pm
Forum: The Nature of Consciousness: Its Features and Modes
Topic: Neuroscientist's Radical Theory of How Networks Become Consc
Replies: 1
Views: 10373

Re: Neuroscientist's Radical Theory of How Networks Become

Thank you for sharing this. Unfortunately Koch tends to define consciousness more along the lines of sensory perception or reactivity to stimuli, rather than introspection. Koch had for a long time worked with Francis Crick, whose book on "consciousness," The Astonishing Hypothesis , was really more...
by Moderator
Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:06 pm
Forum: Julian Jaynes
Topic: Jaynes - Which Languages Did He Speak/Understand?
Replies: 1
Views: 10959

Re: Jaynes - Which Languages Did He Speak/Understand?

My guess would be no on most of these just in terms of the amount of time that would have been involved, and his references to the need for additional more accurate translations (translations that do not attempt to "modernize" the texts or read in a modern psychology to make them more "readable"). W...
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Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:28 pm
Forum: The Nature of Consciousness: Its Features and Modes
Topic: Can consciousness breakdown in a society?
Replies: 3
Views: 9880

Re: Can consciousness breakdown in a society?

I think we have to be very careful about the language we use here, and distinguish between true bicameralism and merely hearing voices or some form of diminished consciousness. Hearing voices in an otherwise normal person is actually relatively easy, through solitary confinement, sensory deprivation...
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Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:03 pm
Forum: The Bicameral Mind: Breakdown, Neurological Model, Evolution, etc.
Topic: Is the Neurological Model in Origin Still Valid?
Replies: 2
Views: 13743

Re: Is the Neurological Model in Origin Still Valid?

The short answer is yes. While new things are being learned about how the brain processes language all the time, the fundamentals remain the same (I think the article above goes too far). Furthermore, a right-left temporal lobe interaction has been documented in numerous fMRI studies of auditory hal...
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Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:26 pm
Forum: The Bicameral Mind in Fiction, Film, and Popular Culture
Topic: The Bicameral Mind in Neil Gaiman's "American Gods"
Replies: 0
Views: 7915

The Bicameral Mind in Neil Gaiman's "American Gods"

Neil Gaiman's book American Gods alludes to Julian Jaynes's theory: "... And then there are the gods [in Herodotus]. Some guy is running back to report on the outcome of a battle and he's running and running, and he sees Pan in a glade. And Pan says, 'Tell them to build me a temple here.' So he says...
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Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:22 pm
Forum: The Bicameral Mind in Fiction, Film, and Popular Culture
Topic: Was Ava J-Conscious in the Movie, "Ex Machina?" (Spoiler)
Replies: 1
Views: 6555

Re: Was Ava J-Conscious in the Movie, "Ex Machina?" (Spoiler

Yes it would seem so. It's interesting to think about the fact that in hindsight, all of her actions were goal-oriented, driven by the sole purpose of gaining freedom. So like you said, she would have to have "observing ego" or an analog I narratizing in a mind-space. By expressing romantic interest...