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Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:28 pm
Forum: The Nature of Consciousness: Its Features and Modes
Topic: Can consciousness breakdown in a society?
Replies: 3
Views: 11082

Re: Can consciousness breakdown in a society?

I think we have to be very careful about the language we use here, and distinguish between true bicameralism and merely hearing voices or some form of diminished consciousness. Hearing voices in an otherwise normal person is actually relatively easy, through solitary confinement, sensory deprivation...
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Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:03 pm
Forum: The Bicameral Mind: Breakdown, Neurological Model, Evolution, etc.
Topic: Is the Neurological Model in Origin Still Valid?
Replies: 2
Views: 15175

Re: Is the Neurological Model in Origin Still Valid?

The short answer is yes. While new things are being learned about how the brain processes language all the time, the fundamentals remain the same (I think the article above goes too far). Furthermore, a right-left temporal lobe interaction has been documented in numerous fMRI studies of auditory hal...
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Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:26 pm
Forum: The Bicameral Mind in Fiction, Film, and Popular Culture
Topic: The Bicameral Mind in Neil Gaiman's "American Gods"
Replies: 0
Views: 10562

The Bicameral Mind in Neil Gaiman's "American Gods"

Neil Gaiman's book American Gods alludes to Julian Jaynes's theory: "... And then there are the gods [in Herodotus]. Some guy is running back to report on the outcome of a battle and he's running and running, and he sees Pan in a glade. And Pan says, 'Tell them to build me a temple here.' So he says...
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Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:22 pm
Forum: The Bicameral Mind in Fiction, Film, and Popular Culture
Topic: Was Ava J-Conscious in the Movie, "Ex Machina?" (Spoiler)
Replies: 1
Views: 7578

Re: Was Ava J-Conscious in the Movie, "Ex Machina?" (Spoiler

Yes it would seem so. It's interesting to think about the fact that in hindsight, all of her actions were goal-oriented, driven by the sole purpose of gaining freedom. So like you said, she would have to have "observing ego" or an analog I narratizing in a mind-space. By expressing romantic interest...
by Moderator
Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:25 pm
Forum: News Items Related to Jaynes's Theory
Topic: Jan/Feb 2017 Smithsonian Magazine Cover Story
Replies: 1
Views: 7554

Re: Jan/Feb 2017 Smithsonian Magazine Cover Story

It's an interesting point. Judith Weissman discusses this in her Introduction to Of Two Minds: Poets Who Hear Voices, which we've reprinted in Gods, Voices, and the Bicameral Mind.

She had a strong interest in these related areas of language, voice-hearing, ancient history, patriarchy, etc.
by Moderator
Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:25 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Real World Practical Implications of Jaynes' Theory
Replies: 9
Views: 17997

Re: Real world practical implications of Jaynes' theory

EEProfessor, I'm glad to hear that Jaynes's theory had such a profound impact on you. On your other point, I'm skeptical of the idea that had Jaynes published his theory in a series of journal articles that it would be enjoying greater mainstream acceptance today. This idea comes up from time to tim...
by Moderator
Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:36 am
Forum: Dreams & Consciousness
Topic: Dreams and J-Consciousness
Replies: 4
Views: 20420

Re: Dreams and J-Consciousness

I can see you haven't read Jaynes's chapter on dreams in The Julian Jaynes Collection or Robert Atwan's chapter "The Interpretation of Dreams, The Origin of Consciousness, and the Birth of Tragedy" in Gods, Voices, and the Bicameral Mind. : ) There's a difference that takes place historically (and i...
by Moderator
Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:19 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Real World Practical Implications of Jaynes' Theory
Replies: 9
Views: 17997

Re: Real world practical implications of Jaynes' theory

Another area where Jaynes's ideas have shaped my thinking has to do with predicting the future. There was no concept of chance in the bicameral era (recall gambling traces it's roots to throwing of lots for divination), and with consciousness we've become obsessed with knowing the future/the will of...
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Fri Oct 21, 2016 1:50 pm
Forum: The Bicameral Mind in Fiction, Film, and Popular Culture
Topic: A Complete List of References to Jaynes in Film and Fiction
Replies: 1
Views: 14435

A Complete List of References to Jaynes in Film and Fiction

Below is an attempt at a complete list of references to Julian Jaynes's bicameral mind theory in film and fiction. Please let us know if we've missed anything... we learn of new references to Jaynes all the time. Film & Television - Jaynes inspired storyline Westworld (HBO) - Jonathan Nolan (Jaynes'...
by Moderator
Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:20 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Real World Practical Implications of Jaynes' Theory
Replies: 9
Views: 17997

Re: Real world practical implications of Jaynes' theory.

I've had a somewhat similar experience. The answers Jaynes's theory provides on the origin of religion had a profound impact on my worldview very early on. Another area is the idea that consciousness is learned, therefore variable and, at least to some degree, can be improved upon. I began thinking ...
by Moderator
Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:19 pm
Forum: The Bicameral Mind in Fiction, Film, and Popular Culture
Topic: Jaynes' Bicameral Mind Theory Featured in HBO's "Westworld"
Replies: 2
Views: 7896

Jaynes' Bicameral Mind Theory Featured in HBO's "Westworld"

Julian Jaynes's theory will be featured in the new HBO series "Westworld." Julian Jaynes will be mentioned by name and his theory will be discussed by Anthony Hopkins' character Dr. Robert Ford starting in Episode 3, "The Stray." The season finale (Episode 10) is even titled "The Bicameral Mind." Ha...
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Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:19 pm
Forum: Religion and the Bicameral Mind
Topic: Modernity Founded Upon Dreams, Hallucinations, Visions, etc
Replies: 1
Views: 7313

Re: Modernity Founded Upon Dreams, Hallucinations, Visions,

It is amazing if you step back and think about how our entire world has been shaped by auditory hallucinations. Here's my take on the process, summarized very briefly: We evolved over millions of years, and during this process much of what we understand as morality was encoded in our genes. Those th...
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Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:09 pm
Forum: The Mentality of Pre-Literate and Pre-Modern Peoples
Topic: Language-less Deaf Adults who are Taught ASL
Replies: 1
Views: 14913

Re: Language-less Deaf Adults who are Taught ASL

Thanks for sharing these resources. I remember listening to the Radiolab "Words that Change the World" when it first came out and it's a good one, worth listening to again! It sounds like there are similarities between A Man Without Words and Hellen Keller's autobiography The Story of My Life , in w...