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by Moderator
Wed May 14, 2014 12:06 pm
Forum: The Nature of Consciousness: Its Features and Modes
Topic: Jaynes and McLuhan and Writing Systems
Replies: 3
Views: 11566

Re: Jaynes and McLuhan and Writing Systems

It's a great question but off hand I can't point you to any research on this. I know Jan Sleutels, who has spoken at several of the conferences on Jaynes, is also interested in McLuhan and the impact of media on psychology. You might look for some of his publications or see if he can point you to ot...
by Moderator
Tue May 13, 2014 4:55 pm
Forum: The Nature of Consciousness: Its Features and Modes
Topic: Narratization
Replies: 3
Views: 14763

Re: Narratization

There has been a lot of work done on inner dialogue by Russell Hurlburt. You might take a look at his book Describing Inner Experience?: Proponent Meets Skeptic, for example.

Maybe you can elaborate on your question?
by Moderator
Tue May 13, 2014 3:58 pm
Forum: Information for Students
Topic: Suggestions for Grad School
Replies: 3
Views: 22966

Re: Suggestions for Grad School

Reposting a previous reply from 22 Jul 2011: While I don't know of any professors at this time that have both a strong interest in Jaynes's theory and are currently associated with a university program accepting Ph.D. students, there are still some options worth exploring. The first is to find a pr...
by Moderator
Mon May 12, 2014 11:21 pm
Forum: The Mentality of Pre-Literate and Pre-Modern Peoples
Topic: Angry Words: Chomsky, Everett and Amazon linguistics
Replies: 2
Views: 13882

Re: Angry Words: Chomsky, Everett and Amazon linguistics

Here is a link to the Smithsonian documentary "The Grammar of Happiness," on Daniel Everett's work with the Pirahã:

http://www.smithsonianchannel.com/sc/we ... -happiness
by Moderator
Fri May 09, 2014 3:16 pm
Forum: The Mentality of Pre-Literate and Pre-Modern Peoples
Topic: Vestiges of Bicameralism in the Pirahã
Replies: 3
Views: 16061

Vestiges of Bicameralism in the Pirahã

The book Don't Sleep, There Are Snakes: Life and Language in the Amazonian Jungle by Daniel L. Everett contains descriptions vestiges of bicameralism among the Pirahãs, an isolated tribe living in the Brazilian Amazon rainforest: "The Pirahãs change names from time to time, usually when individual...
by Moderator
Fri May 09, 2014 2:19 pm
Forum: Mind from 9000 B.C. to 1000 A.D.: Analysis of Classic Literature, Linguistics, and Ancient Civilizations
Topic: Gilgamesh Stories
Replies: 3
Views: 15553

Re: Gilgamesh Stories

Again this type of phraseology to me is somewhat vague and would likely be open to the interpretation of the translators. The non-bicameral dream is more problematic. It's unfortunate we can't get Jaynes's comments on this, although he does briefly reference this in a talk he gave on bicameral dream...
by Moderator
Fri May 09, 2014 11:52 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Welcome / Introductions
Replies: 29
Views: 63118

Re: Welcome / Introductions

Welcome ASD! Jaynes was asked the same question regarding proof in an interview published in The Julian Jaynes Collection . I highly recommend reading the entire book for a fuller understanding the theory. The question of why some people remain open to the theory while others have a knee-jerk skepti...
by Moderator
Fri May 09, 2014 11:36 am
Forum: Book Discussion: Origin of Consciousness; Gods, Voices, and the Bicameral Mind; The Julian Jaynes Collection; Reflections on the Dawn of Consciousness
Topic: Jaynes's Unpublished Chapters
Replies: 1
Views: 10499

Re: Jaynes's Unpublished Chapters

Thank you for your interest in the unpublished Jaynes material. The short answer is the unpublished chapters do not constitute enough material for a complete book, and some additional writing will be added to both introduce each chapter as well as bring readers up-to-date on the relevant new support...
by Moderator
Wed May 07, 2014 8:50 pm
Forum: News Items Related to Jaynes's Theory
Topic: New Research on Consciousness and Speech
Replies: 0
Views: 15345

New Research on Consciousness and Speech

Julian Jaynes writes that consciousness in not necessary for speech, and new research supports that idea:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... ure-saying

What do you think?
by Moderator
Tue May 06, 2014 12:50 am
Forum: Conferences, Events, and Local Discussion Groups
Topic: 2013 Julian Jaynes Society Conference on Consciousness
Replies: 4
Views: 19902

Re: 2013 Julian Jaynes Society Conference on Consciousness

The 2013 Julian Jaynes Society Conference on Consciousness and Bicameral Studies audio CD is now available. It contains 24 lectures related to Jaynes's theory plus a Q & A session with Rabbi James Cohn, Marcel Kuijsten, and Brian J. McVeigh, totaling nearly 12 hours of material. Each lecture has bee...
by Moderator
Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:54 pm
Forum: News Items Related to Jaynes's Theory
Topic: Christof Koch Dissing Jaynes in Scientific American Mind
Replies: 7
Views: 16014

Re: Christof Koch Dissing Jaynes in Scientific American Mind

Thank you Andrew for posting your thoughtful response to the Koch article and for calling our attention to this. This is exactly the kind of thing I'd like to see more people doing. I encourage others to do the same when they see misunderstandings or these types of non-substantive criticisms of Jayn...
by Moderator
Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:35 pm
Forum: Mind from 9000 B.C. to 1000 A.D.: Analysis of Classic Literature, Linguistics, and Ancient Civilizations
Topic: Gilgamesh Stories
Replies: 3
Views: 15553

Re: Gilgamesh Stories

A few quick thoughts: 1. Specifically dealing with this subject, see Jaynes p. 253 and the other references to Gilgamesh in the index. 2. I don't think the dating stated in your post is accurate ("end of the third millennium BCE"). There are different versions dating to different time periods, proba...
by Moderator
Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:48 pm
Forum: The Bicameral Mind: Breakdown, Neurological Model, Evolution, etc.
Topic: How Did Everyone Hear The Same God?
Replies: 9
Views: 18099

Re: How did everyone hear the same god?

I think this is a point of confusion for a lot of people. What you have to remember is that these were strictly organized hierarchical societies. Only the high priests heard the voices of the great gods. These commands -- to build a temple, start a war, etc. -- were then communicated verbally down t...
by Moderator
Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:08 pm
Forum: Mind from 9000 B.C. to 1000 A.D.: Analysis of Classic Literature, Linguistics, and Ancient Civilizations
Topic: The Iliad - which translation?
Replies: 3
Views: 11952

Re: The Iliad - which translation?

We know Jaynes refers to commentary on the Iliad by Walter Leaf, preferred earlier translations, and may have used the Leaf, Lang, Myers translation:

http://julianjaynes.org/related-books_iliad.php
by Moderator
Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:20 pm
Forum: The Bicameral Mind: Breakdown, Neurological Model, Evolution, etc.
Topic: What If Ancient People Really Were Hearing The Gods?
Replies: 4
Views: 12825

Re: What If Ancient People Really Were Hearing The Gods?

The auditory hallucinations aspect of Jaynes's theory is often the most difficult for people to accept. However, after talking to many people that have the voice-hearing experience, or reading enough case studies, one comes to appreciate the conviction many voice-hearers have in the reality of their...