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by Moderator
Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:45 pm
Forum: 1.0. Hypothesis One: Consciousness Based On Language
Topic: A point of clarification - what does Jaynes mean?
Replies: 13
Views: 30267

Re: A point of clarification - what does Jaynes mean?

Yes, you're touching on one of the major problems plaguing the field of consciousness studies in general (i.e., lack of a widely agreed upon lexicon), and the understanding of Jaynes's theory in particular. Most of the critiques of Jaynes's theory are by individuals who haven't read his book and thi...
by Moderator
Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:53 am
Forum: 2.4. Hypothesis Two: The Bicameral Mind | Subtopic: Religion & the Bicameral Mind
Topic: Are There Any Christians Here?
Replies: 13
Views: 38866

Re: Are There Any Christians Here?

That's a great question. It may have been viewed that way as consciousness opens the door to the possibility for evil.... whereas animals are amoral, through consciousness humans for the first time had the capacity for evil.
by Moderator
Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:22 pm
Forum: Myths and Misconceptions About the Theory
Topic: Intro to Myths and Misconceptions
Replies: 2
Views: 18381

Intro to Myths and Misconceptions

For a variety of reasons, myths and misconceptions about Jaynes's theory abound. Often those who write or comment on Jaynes's theory unfortunately don't first take the time to properly understand it. They seem to often skim the book, only read a summary of it, or for other reasons jump to conclusion...
by Moderator
Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:38 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Oracles and their relation to today's politician's
Replies: 2
Views: 11877

Re: Oracles and their relation to today's politician's

You're covering a lot of different topics... just to touch on your main idea, I think the comparison of oracles with modern politicians may be a bit of stretch, but I see what you are getting at. Politically, I think we've seen many of these issues before, and in my view the pendulum kind of swings ...
by Moderator
Wed May 20, 2015 2:20 pm
Forum: 2.0. Hypothesis Two: The Bicameral Mind
Topic: How Did Everyone Hear The Same God?
Replies: 9
Views: 20996

Re: How Did Everyone Hear The Same God?

So for purposes of clarification, that is definitely Jaynes's position. He did not appeal to any supernatural or mystical explanations for the voices.
by Moderator
Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:00 pm
Forum: The Bicameral Mind in Fiction, Film & Popular Culture
Topic: Under the Skin
Replies: 1
Views: 11667

Re: Under the Skin

Thanks for the recommendation... it sounds interesting, I'll check it out!

You might also enjoy Automata (2014), with Antonio Banderas, for some of the Jaynesian implications.
by Moderator
Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:17 pm
Forum: The Bicameral Mind in Fiction, Film & Popular Culture
Topic: Harry Turtledove's "Between the Rivers"
Replies: 1
Views: 9482

Re: Harry Turtledove's "Between the Rivers"

Interesting! I was not aware of this one.
by Moderator
Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:14 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Jeffrey Stamps and Thomas Forster
Replies: 1
Views: 10274

Re: Jeffrey Stamps and Thomas Forster

I was aware of these, however the Stamps book was not searchable when I first saw that it contained a reference to Jaynes (and I don't own a copy), so I didn't know the discussion of Jaynes was this extensive. I'm looking at it on Google Books now and it looks like he provides a fairly extensive ove...
by Moderator
Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:09 pm
Forum: News Items Related to Jaynes's Theory
Topic: Stanford Prof. Names Jaynes' "Origin" As Most Influential
Replies: 0
Views: 17411

Stanford Prof. Names Jaynes' "Origin" As Most Influential

Stanford Professor T.M. Luhrmann cites Julian Jaynes's book as having been the most influential to her in this Chronicle of Higher Education article: What Book Changed Your Mind?
by Moderator
Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:06 pm
Forum: The Bicameral Mind in Fiction, Film & Popular Culture
Topic: Jaynes's Book Incorporated by South Korean Artist Lee Bul
Replies: 0
Views: 17281

Jaynes's Book Incorporated by South Korean Artist Lee Bul

Pages from Julian Jaynes's book were incorporated by the South Korean artist Lee Bul in her "Via Negativa II," which explores self awareness. The video posted here shows the exhibit, and the pages of Jaynes's book at 2:15: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_x9_kYXcFg Lee Bul is recognized a...
by Moderator
Wed Sep 17, 2014 4:55 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Welcome / Introductions
Replies: 35
Views: 72909

Re: Welcome / Introductions

Hello Kenneth, This topic has come up before (but may have since been pruned). My thoughts are that the transition from bicamerality to consciousness took place at very different times in different places around the world, so it's unlikely to have been a major contributing factor. We have to remembe...
by Moderator
Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:24 pm
Forum: 2.5. Hypothesis Two: The Bicameral Mind | Subtopic: Schizophrenia
Topic: Applications of Jaynes' Theory to Help Voice Hearers?
Replies: 2
Views: 11526

Re: applications of Jaynes' theory to help voice hearers?

The short answer unfortunately is no. I do have some detailed ideas for a Jaynesian-inspired intervention for auditory hallucinations but currently don't have the funding to develop it. To answer your other questions: 1. Based on everything I've read, I can say that most likely what is happening is ...
by Moderator
Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:01 pm
Forum: 2.6. Hypothesis Two: The Bicameral Mind | Subtopic: The Mentality of Pre-Literate & Pre-Modern Peoples
Topic: Vestiges of Bicameralism in the Pirahã
Replies: 3
Views: 17836

Re: Vestiges of Bicameralism in the Pirahã

Yes, I would agree that they do not lack consciousness. However, like nearly all tribes I've read about, they do seem to exhibit many vestiges of bicameralism. What is sorely needed is the study of other even more recently contacted groups by someone with an understanding of/interest in Jaynes's the...

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